kelly clarkson, i think, to me -- i expected greatness from beyonce. kelly clarkson, who i have always loved, just totally blew me away. >> what about the fashion? what did you think? >> i thought it was great. tom brown, who the first lady wore during the day, is known as a mens ware designer. this is a tom brown tie. i wear a lot of his ties. so he just started designing for women, and so that was a big -- >> she took a chance. >> she took a chance. i thought the coat was gorgeous during the day, and i thought the dress -- i read today in "the times" eric wilson was saying that the color red was actually an incredibly bold choice for her. it's a bold color, and people expected her to be in blue. i thought it was -- >> what about the girls, the daughters? i thought they looked so cute with the coats, the bright colors? >> kate spade and j crew. >> she's a teenager. she's going to be 15. >> unbelievable. >> when he finishes they'll be 18, 19, so it's going to be really interesting to see the woman that she grows into. >> right. let's talk hollywood now